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OVERLOAD - Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:15 pm

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It's not comin back is it? I wouldn't be fucking surprised.

The Gov't/Police are talking about reclassifying it back up to Grade B so it makes sense that they will do more raids to purposely cause dealers to do things like this so that they can say that it is dangerous and needs to be reclassified.

Everything that the Labour Government do is to make things worse - can you think of anything that they have done that is good and they haven't gone back on (or talking about going back on)?

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Dr.Nast-E© - Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:31 pm
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Totally against it being legalised. Whilst being totally harmless for some it maybe lethal for others.

A friend for example, started smoking the herb in his early teens. His mental illness may have been underlying but Cannabis was certainly the trigger factor (drug induced psychosis) and he now spends his life in and out of mental institutions (presnt diagnosis - schizoaffective disorder). If cannabis was legalised then this scenario could be the case for many other young people, having easier access to the drug and no doubt the drug would become glamourised and possibly more appealing than it is right now.

Just my pennies worth. Sorry, this explains why im a little bitter about the drug! Embarassed


How can a Human with no Control over his mind ever expect to be anything other than out of control? It is now a scientific fact that all illness's, whether physical or mental are the result of one thing, STRESS!! Now the herb helps to focus the mind (if you use it correctly) but the last thing you want to do then is think about something you don't actually want to think about, ie. Stressy shit, as this could possibly & quite literally Break your Brain, possibly permanently re-wireing it far away from your old personality. These people soon find out that Herb isn't useful to them, but to say it was a Cause would be scientifically wrong, as we already know that stress is the Seed of all dis-eases. A Phycotic trigger for some? Yes, I have a m8 also with a similar disorder but he knows for sure that it is not for him Very Happy Although he wouldn't mind a blast every now 'n' then lol..
Statistically though, in a Vote;


2% Aversley Affected
75% Uneffected
Does not hold grounds to keep it illegal!

The stigma, propaganda & lies have to be removed from this Herb! The only person it's killed was when a 5 ton Pallete of the stuff fell on a Dock worker. (FACT!)
The other fact is, The Creator does not make mistakes! And when man stops thinking he can control, Judge & destroy everything he comes into contact with that may benefit people in a healthy, self sufficient & cultural sense!
When the Leaders start giving us more relaxed, natural, laid back living conditions & a bit of wealth distribution, only then will we see the disappearance of all known diseases & stress's on the planet!
This Plant has been here since the dawn of creation & took only a few minds to outlaw it in certain places, wierd huh?

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OVERLOAD - Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:44 pm

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I'd just like to point out that since Cannabis was downgraded to class C - the number of young people using it has actually decreased.

Maybe legalisation along with education [that all drugs can cause some harm] would be a better way forward.

Also, legalisation would mean that rather than unscrupulous dealers on street corners, drugs would be sold by legitimate businesses that are licensed to sell them - surely these would be less likely to sell to under 18s through risk of losing their license.

I think the majority of drugs shoud be legalised, this way they could be controlled properly so that kids can't get their hands on them (don't you find it ironic that illegal drugs are classed as "controlled substances" when as a direct result of the law, that's exactly what they are not!)

Any drug can be a trigger for some kind of illness - including tobacco and alcohol, so why aren't they illegal?

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Elric the Impaler - Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:40 pm
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Dr.Nast-E© wrote:

It is now a scientific fact that all illness's, whether physical or mental are the result of one thing, STRESS!!


Confused ..hm... bet u r wrong

No drugs that alter brain chemistry are totally safe. Just as some who drink heavily become alcoholic, so a minority of those who smoke cannabis daily go psychotic. Society has to balance the enjoyment that the majority get from cannabis with the harm it causes to a vulnerable few.

Cannabis is now one of the biggest problems on in-patient psychiatric wards in England's major cities.

So will reclassifying cannabis cause more people to become psychotic? The incidence of schizophrenia in south London has doubled since the 1960s; the use of cannabis and cocaine could be a factor. The increase in the prevalence and the deteriorating outcomes of schizophrenia due to cannabis use is the main reason why psychiatric services in London are in such a mess.

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Dr.Nast-E© - Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:24 pm
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[quote="Elric the Impaler"]

Dr.Nast-E© wrote:

It is now a scientific fact that all illness's, whether physical or mental are the result of one thing, STRESS!!

Confused ..hm... bet u r wrong


Mental health care? Or a testing ground for even more new weired & wonderful chemical concoctions to test on the masses? Who are the biggest Drug dealers on the Planet? & how blatant is that? They're on good enough moneys to Advertise you any ol' shit "legally", a Chemical Company.... nothing more! The Ill are products created to keep the industry going, trouble is, it does because everything you see or read in the tabloids is 9x out of 10 negative (not pleasant) read, how can u say "bet u r wrong" when people have been surrounded in stress so long they no longer see it or are even aware of it's exsistance in them? War is normal & not stressful? Too Fat, Too Thin, Stabbings, cheating, & Dear dierdry to help with what?? hmmm, With problems so under our noses how can we ever stand a chance of seeing it?

Mental Health Care only serves to Create more Mental health, If you accept that you are mentally I'll then you doom yourself to more mental health for your future...hmm. I wonder if you can understand that also..

Now don't get me started on a Quantum Mechanics tip, lol. But I cannot be wrong, the Final Frontier really is the Mind & the quicker we can accept the fact that all illness's, whether physical or mental are the result of one thing, "STRESS" the better. Healthy happy people do not succumb to illness's as often as the Down & Unhealthy.
Laws make them lots of good Money, why should they listen to anyones oppinion on whether it should be legal or not?

With a new age, comes new thinking, ignorance is no longer an option, The Planet is Sick, Humans are Sick, when we look after one, the other will look after us. (simple forgotten logic)

This is the Road to Zion, Peace, Love, Light, Liberation & understanding for all Mankind!

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Elric the Impaler - Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:39 pm
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Dr.Nast-E© wrote:

It is now a scientific fact that all illness's, whether physical or mental are the result of one thing, STRESS!!


...i still say : wrong!! Wink

the true causes of illness:

1. Detrimental substances in the body including toxins and poisons and the results from autointoxication;

2. Nutritional deficiencies and the absence of substances needed by the body for growth, normal maintenance and repair and replication;

3. Mechanical injury and Genetic damage to the body;

4. Environmental stresses, having to live or work in surroundings or within relationships which place on the individual stresses greater than those for which the human body was designed;

5. Inner conflict between the patients own mental/emotional states and their inner self which prevents the patient from achieving their real chosen path or direction of life by using their own attributes and aspirations.

...and not only stress Dr. Nast-E - I am a qualified nurse; I was three years in the apprenticeship... Very Happy


Dr.Nast-E© - Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:06 pm
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But All of those things cause stress on the body Confused

Jah Bless!!

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Dr.Nast-E© - Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:22 pm
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Elric the Impaler wrote:
Dr.Nast-E© wrote:

It is now a scientific fact that all illness's, whether physical or mental are the result of one thing, STRESS!!


...i still say : wrong!! Wink

the true causes of illness:

1. Detrimental substances in the body including toxins and poisons and the results from autointoxication;

2. Nutritional deficiencies and the absence of substances needed by the body for growth, normal maintenance and repair and replication;

3. Mechanical injury and Genetic damage to the body;

4. Environmental stresses, having to live or work in surroundings or within relationships which place on the individual stresses greater than those for which the human body was designed;

5. Inner conflict between the patients own mental/emotional states and their inner self which prevents the patient from achieving their real chosen path or direction of life by using their own attributes and aspirations.

...and not only stress Dr. Nast-E - I am a qualified nurse; I was three years in the apprenticeship... Very Happy


Please don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you Jah! Razz but for.....

1. Detrimental substances in the body including toxins and poisons and the results from autointoxication;;;;;;;;;;;;
1a. What we do to the Earth, we do to ourselves, let's just say "Humans have some very nast-e, Toxic & gross habits when it comes to spewing stuff into our atmosphere, very stressful indeed" Smoke that Razz

2. Nutritional deficiencies and the absence of substances needed by the body for growth, normal maintenance and repair and replication;;;;;;;;;;;;;
2a. Would you not be stressed if you didn't have any food & were starved or fed 1 thing to the point of malnutrition? We have food Mountains that will be thrown away & dumped into massive holes dug in the Earth or even better, feed for Pigs & get the moneys from Pork! My... What a nice, generous un-Humane race of beings we are really becoming. The Enzyme depletion of ones own natural stores is also not good when it comes to Modern nutrition, eat more Raw Razz

3. Mechanical injury and Genetic damage to the body;;;;;;;;;;;;;
3a. Hmmmm, some huge Mechanical inventions are Gross in the way they can mangle a human body, Man & his inventions eh? All for the good of the country, or the large firms with a big enough bank balance to pay for it all. Oh well, someone else will fill the mangled humans slot Confused a bit freaky if you ask me, lol. As for Genetic Damage, are we talkin on a Chromazone-al level? Because give yourself a few too many X Rays & Bingo! A Freakin Mutant! Ra*dia^tion? Mmmmm, Just don't worry 'bout that, the authorities are dumping enough Neuc^lear% waste from rea%"ctors to Mutate everything from the Sea to in Land, plenty to go 'round so people won't be so different from one another Razz

4. Environmental stresses, having to live or work in surroundings or within relationships which place on the individual stresses greater than those for which the human body was designed;;;;;;;;;;;;;
4a. Ba^by*lon the Great has risen, this was Prophesied 1000s of years ago & we made it happen because we feel safer this way. The Human body was made to exsist & experience in a more natural environment, it's most powerful instinct is to survive, Children fear Death more than adults for the simple reason they are closer to the start of life, it is totally natural, but when the will to live is lost, they are either not satisfied with life or fear retribitions they may have coming, etc... How can you even start to want to live if you are not Grateful for this miracle called Life, Life to some is just a thing that you can throw away if you don't like it? The power of The Most High gave the Spirit for every life to come into exp^erien*tial ex*sis^tance & the free will to "do & manifest what we Will" & will not interfere or Judge you no matter what your decision, suicide or life. When People know the true, Impossible, Sentient Miracle that they are, only then will they choose to experience themselves on the path of life.

5. Inner conflict between the patients own mental/emotional states and their inner self which prevents the patient from achieving their real chosen path or direction of life by using their own attributes and aspirations;;;;;;;;;;;;
We are not here to Prevent, Judge or Control anyone! Not even the Creator interferes with Free Will! Our own fears cause us to appear Humane, we do not want for him what he/she wants, so we prevent them from acheiving their ultimate desire, admitedly, some are obviously cries for help, so all scenarios should be counted in. I beleive for the few fortunate enough to have just under half the will to live, that if we give them everything they could possibly want & need for a happy, peaceful & prosperous life "all they could ever desire" Do you think they would appreciate life to live it out? And no doubt, they would live a happy & healthy life well into Old Age? If people new their real purpose on this planet then culture would bind Planet & Man as ONE & then onto the Universe!!..

You can read all the Greatest books on Knowledge & be the biggest I am, only to find out that you have known it all along. Ras-Tafari Blessingz

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bobby - Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:40 pm
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I definately need a joint after readin all of dat!!

Good arguments on both sides Very Happy


DutchBassAddict - Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:04 pm
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MiNDSET wrote:
Totally against it being legalised. Whilst being totally harmless for some it maybe lethal for others.

A friend for example, started smoking the herb in his early teens. His mental illness may have been underlying but Cannabis was certainly the trigger factor (drug induced psychosis) and he now spends his life in and out of mental institutions (presnt diagnosis - schizoaffective disorder). If cannabis was legalised then this scenario could be the case for many other young people, having easier access to the drug and no doubt the drug would become glamourised and possibly more appealing than it is right now.

Just my pennies worth. Sorry, this explains why im a little bitter about the drug! Embarassed


I disagree. I will not deny the fact that it can be harmful in the sense of triggering psychosis and it also is a bigger chance of getting psychosis. But if you legalize it, the stuff WILL be safer. And dont forget if it's legal or not if kids really want it they can get it. Also you can control the quality of the weed when it's legalized. Also here in the Netherlands we have a very low percentage of pot smokers. In countries where it's illegal, it's also the *kick* or adrenaline those kids get by using it, because of the fact that it is illegal. Also supposedly weed doesnt cause cancer [dont ask my why its some biological-chemical kind of reason I don't dare explaining it]. Smoked in combination with tobacco it does, though. Well that my opinion of this.. Bigg up all smoking and non-smoking DnB-heads. I've been gone forever I know I am well busy atm.

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Jimmuz - Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:11 am
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overload has a point about the goverment never going back on anything and i think thats mainly because it will look like "mistakes" have been made and people don't want the goverment to make mistakes. not ever one is perfect and therefore there will never be a man/woman that can run this country the way every1 wants it to be ran.

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Elric the Impaler - Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:29 am
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I disagree. ... it's also the *kick* or adrenaline those kids get by using it, because of the fact that it is illegal.


that“s too stupid, sry

i don“t want ma kids using any drug, see?

they“ll be much smarter without using "mind open-" toys...

i“ll teach them better, so there“s no need for this kind of madness... i made it up for them - any arguments for using it now??


Dr.Nast-E© - Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:44 pm
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OMG, Adrenalin addicts!! We know they're off there heads somewhere rushing their titz off Very Happy These control freaks will attempt to ban that soon too..

And since when did The Herb leave the Herb category & jump into the drug category?
Mans Ancient History & this plant have always been ONE in many place over the Globe!
The Seed itself contains all of the essential amino acids for a Super Human Body. Very Happy
Levi Jenes were originally made from Hemp, the only reason they changed their fibres was because they simply lasted too long, Freaks!! Confused
Hemp Rope is still used by the Navy as it's the strongest rope on the planet, flags were made of it too.
The leaves contain chlorophil, which has now been found to be super essential & benifitial to the Human Form. People eat grass to get it Confused ... each to thier own eh, lol.
The resin is a Herbal Narcotic, which basically means it helps you to sleep (as u kno) now this plant is just one of many that was created exactly for that. Natural or Chemical, the choice is ours, if it replaced sleeping pills do you think the chemical "Drug" market would allow that? A growable Narcotic? Hmmm, not much money there eh? So they enforce this chemical industry on us, yess, they are at the ones that control the World! Razz

People call a thing a drug when it effects the body in ways that are out of the control of the experiencer, ie. One cannot control the relaxation that overwhelms them until the Body builds a tolerance to it, which it does perfectly & effectively..

it's very simple to educate oneself on this humble creation of a plant. The Creator DOES NOT make mistakes, that's mans job!! Unfortunately that's how Humans learn "from thier mistakes" from Birth to death we are still learning, with little boys toys or big boys toys, from Action man to Neuclear weapons, thing is, our beloved leader are the ones that make & research these things of destruction & we vote for them, hahahhahaha... How on earth can you trust any authority??

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djfada - Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:58 pm
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found out someone round here gets his weed then sprays it with coke (the beverage not the drug Laughing )

lets it dry and apparently this adds weight

the tell tale signs if someones doing this to green your buying is if its got a sugary caramel taste been getting quite known as 'sugar weed'

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Dr.Nast-E© - Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:55 am
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Smelling like Burning Sugur?? See, proves, that Keepin it illegal is more freakin dangerous.. No Question! Glass, Sand, Gritt! And what for?? More Moneys!
Crack heads, or some clever Dick who isn't really clever at all?!! I would call them primative but that would be an insult to primates! All in tha name of money.....

How much more good than bad has money caused? Now money itself is a drug that everyone needs to survive, stressy without it? Who made it like that? Freaks of Nature & who voted for them? we cannot complain, We are asking for everything we get.. Just a matter of understanding reveals that truth.

If u allow another man to Govern you, all you do in effect, is give them some of your responsibility, what good is a man who is less than fully resposible?? How responsible is that ffs?

Smokin anything is bad, especially heroin, crack, coke & the toxic shit they put in tobbacco! They too used to be useful herbs, just like the opium poppy until man got his greedy little hands on them.
I'm afraid man & his leaders have a very sad Legacy & mans diminishing responsibility, & will to have & control everything has helped it get this far!

Time for a change people, Welcome to Paradise!!

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